LLoth sho was in the match with foc. Dont for get we did not have arc, rellos,and mustang. As i see it foc had 4 newbees in that match as for alf. Look real hard who was in that match? No Exe no pimp as the queistion you were asked is you never get that close to beating foc with all our best. 420 fun clan match but once agein look at our line up. Dont get me wroung I am a fool to think foc is the best clan in lomm. Hell I never ever said we are good I call it damn lucky.:)