I have never seen a record of Alf matching FoC... I doubt that ALF could come so close to beating a clan as good as FoC.. Prove me wrong with screen shots with Focs best and I will eat my words... Coursor I like you but Alf members have have told me they beat TooL... ummmm.. sure...that will never happen... Don't go barking up the wrong tree on bad mouthing WAR or there will be hell to pay...